This site can't get any easier can it? Why couldn't we just have any artwork publicly displayed (within their own content ratings) without all that "scouting" stuff? But then again, this is newgrounds, which makes it unique in it's own way.
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If you could see the unscouted section you would understand why.
20 second scribbles, stolen work, rule breaking garbage, and just all around terrible quality stuff is submitted at a much higher frequency than the worth while stuff. Its not fun trying to find a decent piece by wading through all the junk first.
Also the scouting system gives aspiring artists a goal. And not a rather difficult one just being front paged. If you arent quite good enough to make it into the public portal you can either give up or work a bit harder and improve until you are. It's a reasonable and obtainable goal. Whereas other sites the goal would be a major showcase which is extremely daunting and very very difficult to achieve. Doesnt mean they shouldnt also strive for that , but in the mean time they were able to improve enough to the point that someone said "yeah your stuff is good enough to make it into _____ section"
Wow!
Newgrounds is officially Wall-Street!
If your stuff isn't good enough, GET OUT! If I would've known this, I wouldn't have made an account, but because I did and I got my stuff all up on it, I might as well stick it out to the end. Thank good I got Soundcloud and Youtube as back-up to show off my talents just in case.
Its not quite like that. Anyone can still submit work. And all that work is visible to anyone. The only difference is that if you arent scouted people will either have to visit the unscouted section or your userpage to see it rather than come across it in the active portal. (Unless a mod chooses to showcase it on the frontpage, which happens occasionally).
Most people don't see this as an elitist method, but rather as a goal to shoot for. "I want my work to be good enough for the NG portal, so I need to get better" rather than "Well I made something and improvement be damned because its up and I can keep submitting the same shit"
And 100% of Newgrounds content is user generated (by the user submitting it). Unlike other sites where stolen and unoriginal work is allowed to run rampant.
How do you view unscouted art?
What if you do not know your art is terrible? The human mind will unwillingly think its art is better than it actually is, so if you don't know your art is terrible you'll never be acknowledged, and if that happens you'll never know you suck at art. Is there some form of telling the artist he's terrible so he will stop sending in bad work, or is a doomed cycle?
I believe the form you speak of is called 'critique'. Making a thread in the art form is a great place to start getting some critiques from other artists. But be open to the idea of some of those being rather harsh. If you discount everything negative said about your work you cant improve. I typically ignore the praise for the most part that my work gets and only focus on the negative parts because those are the bits that need fixing.
Personally, I like the idea of this scouting system. The 'Good' artists could possibly go further into professional artists, just like 'Draw with Jazza'(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHu2KNu6TtJ0p4hpSW7Yv7Q) says that he has created games with Newgrounds, which is inspiring to hear. I hope to create 'high standard' work and become scouted :D
(also, can you give me a few examples of artists who are in the scouted section please? I can't seem to find that part :x)
i have 5 pieces on my profile., i hope you like it :)
this is really handy, As someone who has yet to be scouted, I'd follow your advice if it would improve my scouting chances.
Thanks. This was really helpful! :)
So to be scouted I have to Kick my self far up the rear and work harder and harder to be approved.
fine tho I see that this is crazy when they mention a branch theory. but hell I guess you either do something that everyone knows about or make something that will get peoples attention. even tho some or most users can be trolls but I don't think so. when it comes to posting work. so get kicking and start working harder. also if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
Very helpful info Thank you!
what does 'pruned' mean? Shalomskie english no good :(. is it not dried plums?
Yes it does mean dried plum. However in this context it means to be taken out of the art portal.
How would someone scouted get UN-Scouted? (If it is because they broke different rules, then why should the people THEY scouted get UN-Scouted as well?)
Reasons someone would be unscouted include:
1. Breaking some rules (stolen work, photograph, inappropriate image, etc.)
2. Poor work quality. The submissions just aren't actually up to standard.
3. Someone higher up the tree was pruned. Aka their scouter got clipped, or that person's scouter and so on.
It is very rare that you will be pruned simply because you scout shitty people if your work quality is up to standard. More likely you will just get castrated and lose your scouting ability, but you will keep your good scouts and your work will stay in the portal.
''Only accept scout requests from users who you don't think will be pruned'' so don't accept scouts from Bond vilains in other words? thanks for the reply, by the way, it is heartening to see that you care :)
Thanks for the info. Has anything changed since 2009?
How do I know if my artwork sucks, according to who does the scouting?
I know I can't ask to be scouted, but can I ask if I'm ever even going to be considered, or does that count as asking?
I'm not trying to sound like a smartass or anything, I love this scouting system, that way the art portal isn't bombarded with crap, like OTHER sites that let you showcase art....
I just think it would be nice to be scouted, someday. Maybe.
That was extremely helpful even in the distant future! Thanks!
Why doesn't my song show up under 'All Songs' after I set the filter to 'Unscouted Artists'?
Thanks for a great post. As a newbie to NG (joined to take part in Jazza's COTM) I had no idea what scouting was about and what it entails etc. I am now much more informed and I know what I'm working towards. Many thanks to you and the rest of the mods!
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Yo ornery, I have a question, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask it, I was wondering about where you said
"All users can submit work to their user page though, and anyone can see the work (assuming they visit your user page)"
is there different ways to upload your work ? iam only aware of the art tab + the option ''submit yours'' and when I upload some pictures there, they seem to just... not exist ? as if breaking some kind of rule but being left in the dark about it.
thanks
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