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Ornery's Handy Dandy Scouting Guide

10/16/09 by ornery
Updated 12/19/09

:UPDATED: 19/12/09
Scouting FAQ and guide because to many of you dont seem to quite get it. Feel free to ask further questions here and I will add them to the list if they are good enough. I will answer all of them regardless.

First the 3 fundamental rules of scouting.
1. DO NOT ASK TO BE SCOUTED! ANYWHERE! EVER!
2. Only accept scout requests from users who you don't think will be pruned.
3. DO NOT ASK TO BE SCOUTED!

Q. What is Scouting?
It is a system implemented in the NG art portal that lets users decide who is allowed to post art in the portal. Only scouted users can submit art to the portal. All users can submit work to their user page though, and anyone can see the work (assuming they visit your user page), even if its not marked for the portal.

Q. How do I scout people?
First you have to be scouted. Then you can find any user who has at least 4 pieces that you feel is good enough for the art portal and send them a scout request. You can send 4 scout requests a day, if someone rejects your request you will be granted another one for that day.

Q. How do I get Scouted?
First, make good art, people will notice you if you are good. You must have at least 4 pieces to get scouted. When someone wants to scout you, you will be sent a request via PM. You can then choose to accept or deny their request.

Q. Can I get requests from multiple people?
Yes. Pick the one you like. Make sure its an artist you feel wont get pruned though.

Q. Pruned? Whats that?
Its when an artist is removed from the art portal, when this happens any one who they have scouted will be pruned along with them. Think of it like a tree branch, anything supported by that branch gets knocked off with it.

Q. When I've been pruned, can I be re-scouted?
Yes.

Q. What would make me get pruned?
Submitting rule breaking work, or not having good enough work.

Q.It says my scouting privileges have been taken away? What gives?
You have been 'castrated'.

Q. What the hell is 'castrated'?
Its a term the mods use for when they remove a users scouting privileges. You get castrated by scouting users who break the rules, or have bad work. Sometimes all it takes is one user under you to cause you to get castrated. It depends on what their infraction was. If you scout an obvious thief, or someone who submits real porn chances are you will get castrated. It might take scouting a few users with bad art to get you castrated though. When you are castrated you are still allowed to submit work and be in the portal, you will also keep any good scouts you may have had.

Q. Will I ever get my privileges back?
Depends on how bad you were at scouting. Contact a mod for more details on your castration.

Q. I have 4 submissions, but I'm not getting scouted, whats up with that?
Either your work isn't good enough, or you haven't marked the submissions as public (viewable in the art portal) Only public marked submissions count towards the 4 you need to get scouted.

Q. How do I mark work as public?
When you submit a piece, there is a box towards the bottom, check it.

Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is to varied to be considered good enough.
The system has a few bugs here and there, but its not flawed. Any user who is scouted that can see the unscouted section will see how much bad art the system keeps out of the portal. As for good art being a matter of opinion, yes its true everyone has different tastes, but we are trying to make the overall quality of the art portal be far above that of most other art showcases, so we try to have only the best work up.

Q. Ok, I've been scouted, and I can see a list of recommended users? What is this list?
Its a list of users who have the most recommendations to be scouted. HOWEVER just because they are on this list doesn't mean they are good scouting candidates. It is merely a slightly helpful list of people you might have missed in the unscouted section. The list updates about every day or so. If you are scouted you will have to use up your scout requests for that day in order to recommend users.

Q.How do I recommend users?
Anyone can recommend a user for the art portal, doesn't matter how many pieces they have. All you have to do is click the recommend user button on their art page. If they get enough recommendations and are eligible for scouting they will be added to that list. You can only recommend a user once, but you can recommend as many users a day as you want.

Remember, feel free to PM any art mod if you have questions about the art portal, but make sure its not one that is answered in the rules or in this list.

!!!!ORNERY'S PERSONAL 'GETTING SCOUTED' ADVICE!!!!
So you have 4 pieces, and are still stuck in scouting limbo? Fear not there are ways to remedy it.
STEP 1. First make sure you have at least 4 of your pieces marked for public viewing.
STEP 2. Keep submitting work, everytime you make a new piece, you get put at the front of the unscouted section, most scouters are lazy and only check the first 2 pages or so of that section.
STEP 3. Make better work. Probably the real reason why you arent getting scouted is your stuff sucks, make better stuff.
STEP 4. Delete your bad stuff. If you have 2 good pieces but 18 shitty ones, people will ignore your good work and think that it was either stolen or a fluke, prove that you can consistantly make good stuff.
STEP 5. DON'T STEAL ANYTHING! If you get caught stealing work, or breaking any of the Art Portal rules chances are you have fucked all chances of getting scouted, or remaining scouted. The mods know when you steal something and remember it, and once you do it and get caught good luck getting into the art portal because we will be suspicious of anything you make.


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BouncyCGBouncyCG

1 day ago

I had no idea there was such a thing. This entry was very very useful. Thanks!


Xavy-027Xavy-027

2/6/14

Hi. This is maybe a stupid question, but how do I know who scouted me?

2/6/14 ornery responds:

Underneath your art on your art page http://xavy-027.newgrounds.com/art/ You will see "scouted by ____"

In your case its zalfurius


NemisXueNemisXue

1/21/14

Why don't they have an area in the art gallery that allows you to look at unscouted peoples work, so they may be scouted easier. Cause I got people who have came across my stuff from my other ports and on here, paying me in SL for my work but no one is scouting me.

1/21/14 ornery responds:

They do have an area for that. Its the unscouted section, only scouted users can see it. To increase visibility, keep submitting work. Each new piece you submit jumps to the front of the unscouted section. If you reach your cap of work submitted delete the old bad stuff that is obviously not going to get you scouted and replace it with new good stuff.


I say, quite a brilliant idea. I was about to ask someone why my work wasn't showing up in the portal haha. Just how many times does the penalty stack up? If bob who was scouted by linda who was scouted by avery who was scouted by me gets pruned, do we ALL get un-scouted? or just Linda? (fake names btw, just an example).

12/29/13 ornery responds:

chances are no one but bob would get pruned, linda might get her balls cut off, others should be safe though.


RobbieLopezRobbieLopez

10/22/13

Can you be scouted by more than one user or can you only choose one you'd prefer to be scouted by?

10/22/13 ornery responds:

You can only be scouted by one user at a time. And to my current knowledge once you accept a scout request it nullifies the other requests.


I meant like.... How can you see who is scouting you when you don't remember their name. :(


I have 2 questions.

1) how would I go about checking who is scouting me? Because I had no idea what she outing was but got the notification about it and just pressed accept just because it sounded helpful. (the word itself sounded helpful)
2) if I don't like the scouter or whatever how can I leave or become unscouted?

10/8/13 ornery responds:

Just check your scouters profile to see what their stuff is like to decide if you like them or not. If however you choose that you no longer want to be scouted after accepting a request, then contact an art mod and we can prune you (or audio mod if its audio you were referring to)


moonwalkmoonwalk

9/30/13

Thanks for the info!, I have just submitted 5 of my planes, and I am willing to wait.


SkankkySkankky

9/1/13

Thanks for this ^_^ I was wondering what is whole this scouting thing and now it makes sense :)


aaarinatoraaarinator

8/20/13

thanks


thayCVBthayCVB

8/17/13

Hi,

Thanks a lot for the info, it really helped me because I'm new here and I didn't get all that "scouting" matter.

However, if it's not too bold to ask... why it is considered bad asking to be scouted? I'm just curious, nothing else.

Cheers!

8/18/13 ornery responds:

We want to discourage begging, if there wasnt a rule in place the forums and pm boxes would be flooded with threads and messages that read "OMG I DID ARTZ PLEASE SCOUT ME!" We already get a few of those to begin with even with the rule, so without it in place you can just imagine how irritating all the begging would get.


Thanks!


SharktoofSharktoof

5/27/13

This is extremely helpful! Thank you! I didn't know there was an unscouted art portal. :D I am a little bit less stupid, everyday! Is there a suggested time to post art, when it will get the most views? Or is it more or less the same results each time? Well thank you for the information. :)

5/27/13 ornery responds:

There isn't really a best time for the most part to submit art. The art portal doesn't move terribly quick so as long as your thumbs look intriguing enough people will check your stuff out. Its a cheap trick and personally I hate that the portal is being clogged with it, and users resort to it to often, but sticking tits in the thumb is almost a guarantee for more views than a piece deserves.


Thanks for the info! I had no idea what this whole "scouting" thing was about, but you've more explained it. I'll definitely upload more work when I get the chance!


I'm a little desperate by thinking my work sucks. But Show must go on. :D


I wanted to thank you for writing this guide and posting it for us, it helped me.


Kuri-osityKuri-osity

10/28/12

As a newcomer to the site, I'm adding my thanks to the many others who have found help through this. Much appreciated!


cloudandiscloudandis

10/14/12

Thank you so much for posting this. ^^ I was a little scared at first when I read two pms saying the same person attempted to scout me twice, and thought it was something like a referral. Yay google search! :D


Helpful...


I have been unscouted numerous times, and now, I can't even submit art to my own gallery! How many pieces may I have in my gallery while unscouted? Perhaps you should answer that question!

9/20/12 ornery responds:

If you are unscouted you can only have 20 pieces in your gallery. Delete the old bad stuff and replace it with new good stuff, as stated in Step 4.


MClewisMClewis

7/11/12

that makes me feel more stupid than i already am

7/11/12 ornery responds:

But now that you know it you should feel smarter.


mewiyevmewiyev

2/22/12

Thank you very much for posting this and having it available. I did not realize that there was a separate area where scouted artists could view unscouted artists' pieces; I was wondering how I was supposed to get anyone to view my work if it's only being posted to my own page. :)


AfroRyanAfroRyan

2/15/12

First, thanks for the FAQ. It was very useful. Second, allow me to correct a couple grammar errors...or rather the same grammar error twice.

"Scouting FAQ and guide because to many of you dont seem to quite get it."

That should be "Scouting FAQ and guide because too many of you dont seem to quite get it. "

"Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is to varied to be considered good enough."

Should be "Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is too varied to be considered good enough."

Please believe me when I say I'm not doing this to be nitpicky; I'm doing it because it's a well written FAQ and I wanted to help make it the tiniest bit better. This FAQ is the first hit on Google when "scout newgrounds" is searched, so you've definitely written an incredibly useful FAQ that is referenced pretty regularly. I mean no offense; thanks again!


vortigon09vortigon09

1/22/12

am not scouted

3 people scout me and am not scouted and i have 21 deleted arts By M-bot

2/8/12 ornery responds:

Because you keep stealing art from other users. And the art that might be yours is pretty crap.


thanks for the info sir, my art is improving check my portal out sometime soon its getting better all the time!!


crow342crow342

10/19/11

Ooooooooooooooooh RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
No really i'm that stupid


BinaryDoodBinaryDood

10/7/11

Thank you for the information but...

Can you please check my artwork to see if it's good enought?


Oooooooooh, so that's why I haven't got any thing... I suck.
Well that's a sad reality check :(


dan22444dan22444

8/4/11

Thanks heaps man, told me everything i needed to know.


This is very helpful indeed.


macboo11macboo11

6/23/11

Thank you This is alot of help to me and now i understand more then before i read this. Good Day to You


I've never been scouted. For reading this, thank you for helping me, and Kinsei01...


faomufaomu

3/28/11

This is so helpful! I didn't know ANYTHING about scouting before I read this. I just kept seeing "this artist has not been scouted yet" So I googled it and ended up here. Wonderful advice.

5/23/11 ornery responds:

Wow this thing is googleable? Crazy!


just wanted to say thank you so much for compiling this FAQ. I'm more or less a lurker on NG, just checking stuff out and looking around, but I seem to run into people asking questions about scouting more than anything else. Now I know where to direct them to get the answers. Also, it helps me out if I ever decide to post art.

5/23/11 ornery responds:

Thats what its here for


I can't find the unscouted section, where is that on this site?

3/21/11 ornery responds:

You have to be scouted in order to see it.


saramary3saramary3

3/14/11

WOW! I only wish that I'd read this post the FIRST time I was looking for advice on being scouted... But, seriously... thank you so much for the advice.

5/23/11 ornery responds:

De Nada


JackieBlueJackieBlue

2/28/11

Wow...FIRST I post a blog asking to be scouted, THEN I read this. Well I certainly feel like an ass-hat. Regardless, this guide is INCREDIBLY helpful. And thorough! Well done sir. I had to go back and get rid of some..."sub-par" submissions, but it's the motivation I need to produce some decent work. Thanks a buttload!

5/23/11 ornery responds:

Just keep posting good stuff, im sure you will get noticed sooner or later.


PinkRose11PinkRose11

1/23/11

Is it possible that I (a unscouted regular old person) Can veiw the unscouted section? Or is it reserved?

3/10/11 ornery responds:

Only scouted users can view the unscouted section.


JTmovieJTmovie

1/11/11

something wierd happend to me

i got a portal invite to be scouted by a user so i got a message from the M-bot thing and it said "do you want to be scouted yes or no" i clicked yes but then that angry smiley came up and said "Errors: Bad parent ID: no such member"

so i have no idea what to do

3/10/11 ornery responds:

Chances are the person who attempted to scout you was pruned before you were able to accept.


Thanks for clearing up the issue. I would have never known about the pruning thingie if I hadn't googled 'newgrounds scout artist' XP
I guess I'll have to be careful if I get any scouts :P

12/6/10 ornery responds:

You only have to be careful of who scouts you. if you scout bad people you will still be scouted and can post art, you just wont be able to scout anymore.


kirihamakirihama

11/29/10

Hot damn thats good advice! Thank you, i guess i only have ONE good art piece, going to delete the sucky work i have there and make good art, thanks man!

12/6/10 ornery responds:

Good lad


OuchihitmeOuchihitme

11/21/10

Zombie Eskimo Was the Dude Who Scouted Me Awkward Enough Right After I Got Scouted I got Unscouted And I Didnt Even Do anything

12/6/10 ornery responds:

Did you read the guide. You can get scouted, but if a mod sees your work and decides its not good enough you will be pruned.


How long do you have to wait till you get scouted?

12/6/10 ornery responds:

Someone obviously didnt read the guide...


Thanks for the tips. I hope to eventually get scouted some day.

12/6/10 ornery responds:

Keep using the advice in the guide and you just might.


OuchihitmeOuchihitme

9/25/10

I just got Unscouted for some reason do you know why

10/5/10 ornery responds:

Probably because whoever scouted you was also pruned.


WyzenhuWyzenhu

9/11/10

WOW this is a great guide! But what happens if I didn't press the public thingy? I didn't press it for most of my work because I thought people would still be able to see it and will have a chance to criticise it. Is there a way to change my work so they can be ticked public again? Even thought they've already been submitted?

9/11/10 ornery responds:

People can still see your work even if its not marked public. To mark it public go to the piece and edit it (next to the rating) there should be the option to mark it public. if that doesnt work you can PM a mod to do it for you.


Thanks that guide is helping me not having lots of piles of shit for art . Thanks Alot:)


But art DOESN'T appear in the portal unless you've been scouted by at least one user.Send me a PM if you reply.

And I hope you aren't REALLY ornery.

9/8/10 ornery responds:

Correct, and it only takes one user to scout you, since you can only be scouted by one user. Which is why its important to pick the best one who offered so that they don't get clipped and you fall with them.


Check out my art?

8/6/10 ornery responds:

Its getting there, still needs some refining though.


Oh, "scouting" is the word I was thinking of.

8/6/10 ornery responds:

Makes a lot more sense