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Ornery ArtEntry #12
:UPDATED: 19/12/09
Scouting FAQ and guide because to many of you dont seem to quite get it. Feel free to ask further questions here and I will add them to the list if they are good enough. I will answer all of them regardless.
First the 3 fundamental rules of scouting.
1. DO NOT ASK TO BE SCOUTED! ANYWHERE! EVER!
2. Only accept scout requests from users who you don't think will be pruned.
3. DO NOT ASK TO BE SCOUTED!
Q. What is Scouting?
It is a system implemented in the NG art portal that lets users decide who is allowed to post art in the portal. Only scouted users can submit art to the portal. All users can submit work to their user page though, and anyone can see the work (assuming they visit your user page), even if its not marked for the portal.
Q. How do I scout people?
First you have to be scouted. Then you can find any user who has at least 4 pieces that you feel is good enough for the art portal and send them a scout request. You can send 4 scout requests a day, if someone rejects your request you will be granted another one for that day.
Q. How do I get Scouted?
First, make good art, people will notice you if you are good. You must have at least 4 pieces to get scouted. When someone wants to scout you, you will be sent a request via PM. You can then choose to accept or deny their request.
Q. Can I get requests from multiple people?
Yes. Pick the one you like. Make sure its an artist you feel wont get pruned though.
Q. Pruned? Whats that?
Its when an artist is removed from the art portal, when this happens any one who they have scouted will be pruned along with them. Think of it like a tree branch, anything supported by that branch gets knocked off with it.
Q. When I've been pruned, can I be re-scouted?
Yes.
Q. What would make me get pruned?
Submitting rule breaking work, or not having good enough work.
Q.It says my scouting privileges have been taken away? What gives?
You have been 'castrated'.
Q. What the hell is 'castrated'?
Its a term the mods use for when they remove a users scouting privileges. You get castrated by scouting users who break the rules, or have bad work. Sometimes all it takes is one user under you to cause you to get castrated. It depends on what their infraction was. If you scout an obvious thief, or someone who submits real porn chances are you will get castrated. It might take scouting a few users with bad art to get you castrated though. When you are castrated you are still allowed to submit work and be in the portal, you will also keep any good scouts you may have had.
Q. Will I ever get my privileges back?
Depends on how bad you were at scouting. Contact a mod for more details on your castration.
Q. I have 4 submissions, but I'm not getting scouted, whats up with that?
Either your work isn't good enough, or you haven't marked the submissions as public (viewable in the art portal) Only public marked submissions count towards the 4 you need to get scouted.
Q. How do I mark work as public?
When you submit a piece, there is a box towards the bottom, check it.
Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is to varied to be considered good enough.
The system has a few bugs here and there, but its not flawed. Any user who is scouted that can see the unscouted section will see how much bad art the system keeps out of the portal. As for good art being a matter of opinion, yes its true everyone has different tastes, but we are trying to make the overall quality of the art portal be far above that of most other art showcases, so we try to have only the best work up.
Q. Ok, I've been scouted, and I can see a list of recommended users? What is this list?
Its a list of users who have the most recommendations to be scouted. HOWEVER just because they are on this list doesn't mean they are good scouting candidates. It is merely a slightly helpful list of people you might have missed in the unscouted section. The list updates about every day or so. If you are scouted you will have to use up your scout requests for that day in order to recommend users.
Q.How do I recommend users?
Anyone can recommend a user for the art portal, doesn't matter how many pieces they have. All you have to do is click the recommend user button on their art page. If they get enough recommendations and are eligible for scouting they will be added to that list. You can only recommend a user once, but you can recommend as many users a day as you want.
Remember, feel free to PM any art mod if you have questions about the art portal, but make sure its not one that is answered in the rules or in this list.
!!!!ORNERY'S PERSONAL 'GETTING SCOUTED' ADVICE!!!!
So you have 4 pieces, and are still stuck in scouting limbo? Fear not there are ways to remedy it.
STEP 1. First make sure you have at least 4 of your pieces marked for public viewing.
STEP 2. Keep submitting work, everytime you make a new piece, you get put at the front of the unscouted section, most scouters are lazy and only check the first 2 pages or so of that section.
STEP 3. Make better work. Probably the real reason why you arent getting scouted is your stuff sucks, make better stuff.
STEP 4. Delete your bad stuff. If you have 2 good pieces but 18 shitty ones, people will ignore your good work and think that it was either stolen or a fluke, prove that you can consistantly make good stuff.
STEP 5. DON'T STEAL ANYTHING! If you get caught stealing work, or breaking any of the Art Portal rules chances are you have fucked all chances of getting scouted, or remaining scouted. The mods know when you steal something and remember it, and once you do it and get caught good luck getting into the art portal because we will be suspicious of anything you make.
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3 days ago
Thanks for the info! I had no idea what this whole "scouting" thing was about, but you've more explained it. I'll definitely upload more work when I get the chance!
1/7/13
I'm a little desperate by thinking my work sucks. But Show must go on. :D
1/6/13
I wanted to thank you for writing this guide and posting it for us, it helped me.
10/28/12
As a newcomer to the site, I'm adding my thanks to the many others who have found help through this. Much appreciated!
10/14/12
Thank you so much for posting this. ^^ I was a little scared at first when I read two pms saying the same person attempted to scout me twice, and thought it was something like a referral. Yay google search! :D
8/25/12
Helpful...
8/4/12
I have been unscouted numerous times, and now, I can't even submit art to my own gallery! How many pieces may I have in my gallery while unscouted? Perhaps you should answer that question!
If you are unscouted you can only have 20 pieces in your gallery. Delete the old bad stuff and replace it with new good stuff, as stated in Step 4.
7/11/12
that makes me feel more stupid than i already am
But now that you know it you should feel smarter.
2/22/12
Thank you very much for posting this and having it available. I did not realize that there was a separate area where scouted artists could view unscouted artists' pieces; I was wondering how I was supposed to get anyone to view my work if it's only being posted to my own page. :)
2/15/12
First, thanks for the FAQ. It was very useful. Second, allow me to correct a couple grammar errors...or rather the same grammar error twice.
"Scouting FAQ and guide because to many of you dont seem to quite get it."
That should be "Scouting FAQ and guide because too many of you dont seem to quite get it. "
"Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is to varied to be considered good enough."
Should be "Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is too varied to be considered good enough."
Please believe me when I say I'm not doing this to be nitpicky; I'm doing it because it's a well written FAQ and I wanted to help make it the tiniest bit better. This FAQ is the first hit on Google when "scout newgrounds" is searched, so you've definitely written an incredibly useful FAQ that is referenced pretty regularly. I mean no offense; thanks again!
1/22/12
am not scouted
3 people scout me and am not scouted and i have 21 deleted arts By M-bot
Because you keep stealing art from other users. And the art that might be yours is pretty crap.
11/22/11
thanks for the info sir, my art is improving check my portal out sometime soon its getting better all the time!!
10/19/11
Ooooooooooooooooh RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
No really i'm that stupid
10/7/11
Thank you for the information but...
Can you please check my artwork to see if it's good enought?
8/29/11
Oooooooooh, so that's why I haven't got any thing... I suck.
Well that's a sad reality check :(
8/4/11
Thanks heaps man, told me everything i needed to know.
7/14/11
This is very helpful indeed.
6/23/11
Thank you This is alot of help to me and now i understand more then before i read this. Good Day to You
5/15/11
I've never been scouted. For reading this, thank you for helping me, and Kinsei01...
3/28/11
This is so helpful! I didn't know ANYTHING about scouting before I read this. I just kept seeing "this artist has not been scouted yet" So I googled it and ended up here. Wonderful advice.
Wow this thing is googleable? Crazy!
3/17/11
just wanted to say thank you so much for compiling this FAQ. I'm more or less a lurker on NG, just checking stuff out and looking around, but I seem to run into people asking questions about scouting more than anything else. Now I know where to direct them to get the answers. Also, it helps me out if I ever decide to post art.
Thats what its here for
3/15/11
I can't find the unscouted section, where is that on this site?
You have to be scouted in order to see it.
3/14/11
WOW! I only wish that I'd read this post the FIRST time I was looking for advice on being scouted... But, seriously... thank you so much for the advice.
De Nada
2/28/11
Wow...FIRST I post a blog asking to be scouted, THEN I read this. Well I certainly feel like an ass-hat. Regardless, this guide is INCREDIBLY helpful. And thorough! Well done sir. I had to go back and get rid of some..."sub-par" submissions, but it's the motivation I need to produce some decent work. Thanks a buttload!
Just keep posting good stuff, im sure you will get noticed sooner or later.
1/23/11
Is it possible that I (a unscouted regular old person) Can veiw the unscouted section? Or is it reserved?
Only scouted users can view the unscouted section.
1/11/11
something wierd happend to me
i got a portal invite to be scouted by a user so i got a message from the M-bot thing and it said "do you want to be scouted yes or no" i clicked yes but then that angry smiley came up and said "Errors: Bad parent ID: no such member"
so i have no idea what to do
Chances are the person who attempted to scout you was pruned before you were able to accept.
12/4/10
Thanks for clearing up the issue. I would have never known about the pruning thingie if I hadn't googled 'newgrounds scout artist' XP
I guess I'll have to be careful if I get any scouts :P
You only have to be careful of who scouts you. if you scout bad people you will still be scouted and can post art, you just wont be able to scout anymore.
11/29/10
Hot damn thats good advice! Thank you, i guess i only have ONE good art piece, going to delete the sucky work i have there and make good art, thanks man!
Good lad
11/21/10
Zombie Eskimo Was the Dude Who Scouted Me Awkward Enough Right After I Got Scouted I got Unscouted And I Didnt Even Do anything
Did you read the guide. You can get scouted, but if a mod sees your work and decides its not good enough you will be pruned.
11/21/10
How long do you have to wait till you get scouted?
Someone obviously didnt read the guide...
11/1/10
Thanks for the tips. I hope to eventually get scouted some day.
Keep using the advice in the guide and you just might.
9/25/10
I just got Unscouted for some reason do you know why
Probably because whoever scouted you was also pruned.
9/11/10
WOW this is a great guide! But what happens if I didn't press the public thingy? I didn't press it for most of my work because I thought people would still be able to see it and will have a chance to criticise it. Is there a way to change my work so they can be ticked public again? Even thought they've already been submitted?
People can still see your work even if its not marked public. To mark it public go to the piece and edit it (next to the rating) there should be the option to mark it public. if that doesnt work you can PM a mod to do it for you.
9/4/10
Thanks that guide is helping me not having lots of piles of shit for art . Thanks Alot:)
8/29/10
But art DOESN'T appear in the portal unless you've been scouted by at least one user.Send me a PM if you reply.
And I hope you aren't REALLY ornery.
Correct, and it only takes one user to scout you, since you can only be scouted by one user. Which is why its important to pick the best one who offered so that they don't get clipped and you fall with them.
8/6/10
Check out my art?
Its getting there, still needs some refining though.
8/5/10
Oh, "scouting" is the word I was thinking of.
Makes a lot more sense
8/4/10
Wait a minute... What's it called when someone chooses to put your stuff in the art portal?
Theft?
8/1/10
Yeah you are right for making such a strict system in the Art Portal, I mean people can`t just upload shit like in the Flash Portal, like just two circles and getting scouted. Also, It feels better, when you make a lot of effort into something, but make it more times to improve your art skills and finally getting invited into the Art Portal.
Well, thanks for everything (again).
And make sure you visit some time, small talk and stuff :)
I didn't make the system.
And people can upload whatever they want as long as it complies with the rules. However they wont get scouted with just any ol junk.
7/20/10
This system is unfair! I haven't even been checked out yet! Every OTHER artist and even artists who don't deserve scouting have been scouted! Why not me? I spend tons and tons of hours on my art just to impress you guys, and what thanks do I get? NONE! I want to be scouted really really badly.
For starters you don't know whether or not people have seen your stuff, so don't assume that its just because you haven't been spotted. If you have more than 4 pieces and regularly make new work to replace your old then I can almost guarantee that people have noticed you and simply chosen not to scout you. This means that maybe you need to change your style, or try something different. Or improve instead of doing the same generic anime that you seem to be cranking out.
7/18/10
Thanks for the help, this really cleared up my questions. :)
Any time
7/8/10
Your name is just like Oney but with R's
You mean his name is just like mine minus the R's
7/7/10
I really like the part about choosing your scouts, I didn't and look what happened to me...
Yep very important to trace your prospective tree up a few branches to see how stable its foundation is.
6/23/10
You have no right to be located in various degrees of sanity when you believe there is such a thing as a personal universal sense of quality or shit art. *Replaces your top hat with a dunce hat*
Trust me, if the art portal were controlled by my personal preference of art, it would be a fairly empty exclusive place.
6/20/10
Thanks on that..so three months have passed...It can't take much longer...
Like it says in the guide, keep submitting new work and replace the old stuff, because obviously what you currently have isn't working.
6/9/10
Very interesting system, i think this whole scouting business is why i like Newgrounds so much more than DeviantArt these days.
Cheers for the info :)
Quality control for the win.
6/7/10
Actually the FAQ's "submitting art" section should link to thís post. Or they should add it to the FAQ. Or they should delete the whole section and let you rewrite it. :P
Or people should at least read the FAQ to avoid the same questions over and over again, but that's another issue....
But honestly, great guide with helpful information and indeed very handy when it comes to people asking to be scouted. Thank you!
Plenty welcome, it would be kind of neat to have all this info in the FAQ now wouldn't it.
6/7/10
I lost my "Scout-hood" Due to the portal error :'(
Thats unfortunate, keep submitting work and you might get rescouted.
5/22/10
This guide is so Handy and Dandy!
So is your mother.
5/10/10
This has no relevance to your blog post, but I watched A Scanner Darkly last night on a whim, and I decided that you look like Keanu Reeves when he's cell shaded.
Example:
http://www.chinadaily.cn/entertainmen t/2006-06/19/xin_17060319171133213324 2.jpg
:|
God damnit.... *tallys another for keanu reeves*