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Ornery's Handy Dandy Scouting Guide

Posted by ornery - October 16th, 2009


:UPDATED: 30/11/2022 (removed outdated sections, updated scouting becoming instant)

Official Site Rules for Scouting Here

NOTE - This is mainly about the art portal. The audio portal works similarly, but for questions about the specifics of the audio scouting system please see an audio mod for advice.


Scouting FAQ and guide because to many of you dont seem to quite get it. Feel free to ask further questions here and I will add them to the list if they are good enough. I will answer all of them regardless.


First the 3 fundamental rules of scouting.

1. DO NOT ASK TO BE SCOUTED! ANYWHERE! EVER!

2. Asking to be scouted is bad mkay.

3. DO NOT ASK TO BE SCOUTED!


Q. What is Scouting?

It is a system implemented in the NG art portal that lets users decide who is allowed to post art in the portal. Only scouted users can submit art to the portal. All users can submit work to their user page though, and anyone can see the work (assuming they visit your user page), even if its not marked for the portal.


Q. How do I scout people?

First you have to be scouted. Then you can find any user who that you feel is good enough for the art portal and then you scout them. The scouting is instant.


Q. How do I get Scouted?

First, make good art, people will notice you if you are good. The more art you make the better your visibility.


Q. I Keep seeing mention of "Pruned." What is that?

Its when an artist is removed from the art portal, when this happens any one who they have scouted will remain scouted but will now be scouted by "staff" instead.


Q. When I've been pruned, can I be re-scouted?

Yes.


Q. What would make me get pruned?

Submitting rule breaking work, or not having good enough work.


Q.It says my scouting privileges have been taken away? What gives?

You have been 'castrated'.


Q. What the hell is 'castrated'?

Its a term the mods use for when they remove a users scouting privileges. You get castrated by scouting users who break the rules, or have bad work. Sometimes all it takes is one user under you to cause you to get castrated. It depends on what their infraction was. If you scout an obvious thief, or someone who submits real porn chances are you will get castrated. It might take scouting a few users with bad art to get you castrated though. When you are castrated you are still allowed to submit work and be in the portal, you will also keep any good scouts you may have had.


Q. Will I ever get my privileges back?

Depends on how bad you were at scouting. Contact a mod for more details on your castration.


Q. I have a bunch of submissions, but I'm not getting scouted, whats up with that?

Either your work isn't good enough, or you haven't marked the submissions as public (viewable in the art portal) Only public marked submissions will be seen in the undiscovered section (and then the Approved artist section that everyone is privy to once you become scouted)


Q. How do I mark work as public?

When you submit a piece, there is a box towards the bottom, check it.


Q. This scouting system seems flawed, art is to varied to be considered good enough.

The system has a few bugs here and there, but its not flawed. Any user who is scouted that can see the unscouted section will see how much bad art the system keeps out of the portal. As for good art being a matter of opinion, yes its true everyone has different tastes, but we are trying to make the overall quality of the art portal be far above that of most other art showcases, so we try to have only the best work up.


Remember, feel free to PM any art mod if you have questions about the art portal, but make sure its not one that is answered in the rules or in this list.


!!!!ORNERY'S PERSONAL 'GETTING SCOUTED' ADVICE!!!!

So you have some pieces, and are still stuck in scouting limbo? Fear not there are ways to remedy it.

STEP 1. First make sure you have your pieces marked for public viewing.

STEP 2. Keep submitting work, every time you make a new piece, you get put at the front of the undiscovered section, most scouters are lazy and only check the first 2 pages or so of that section.

STEP 3. Make better work. Probably the real reason why you arent getting scouted is your stuff sucks, make better stuff.

STEP 4. Delete your bad stuff. If you have 2 good pieces but 18 shitty ones, people will ignore your good work and think that it was either stolen or a fluke, prove that you can consistently make good stuff.

STEP 5. DON'T STEAL ANYTHING! If you get caught stealing work, or breaking any of the Art Portal rules chances are you have fucked all chances of getting scouted, or remaining scouted. The mods know when you steal something and remember it, and once you do it and get caught good luck getting into the art portal because we will be suspicious of anything you make.

STEP 6. NO AI ART! Presence of ANY AI art makes us suspicious of all your work and could result in your entire gallery getting deleted.


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Comments

This is helpful info, thanks. I was scouted almost immediately, but I didn't know what it even meant.

Good to hear.

Oh lol, I was wondering why I didn' show up in the art portal...

Yep be patient and keep submitting good stuff and you should be noticed soon enough.

thanx so much for scouting me.

Thanks for having good work.

CAN I HAS GET PRIVELAGES?

Can you has submit more and better works nowz kthnxbai

Thank you for this guide! If I didn't read this, I would never have known that I had to have four pieces of art or that I have to check my PMs and accept to be scouted.

Glad to be of service.

I just can't seem to get kicked out the portal, s'upwidat?

I was going to kick you but your mom said I needed to be nicer to you or she wouldn't let me stick it in her pooper anymore. <3

helps a bunch :) thank you
i take it my art sux :P

Not really, you just didnt have enough pieces marked as public. Dont worry I fixed that for you.

thankyou

sure thing.

fixed it? o.o
haha well thanks again for this post, now i wait :D

As in a tagged the ones that should be public as such. Mods can do that.

I wonder why the 'not good enough' aspect of moderation has been applied to the audio and art portals, but not the flash portal?

I mean, yeah, there's a judgement filter, but it's largely run by moron kids who'll 5 any old shite as long as it's got hentai and/or half-assed graphics. Why don't we have mods (or any group of people who can tell a decent flash from a pathetic attempt at grabbing votes from dumbshits) deciding what should be in the portal?

The portal is the bread and butter of newgrounds. More submissions go into it than any other part of the site. To leave the content up to a small oligarchy would be suicide for the future of the site. Disincluding the general users would suddenly turn NG away from "Everything by everyone" to "Everything censored by a few" and would make it no better than any other flash site.
True it would cut down and the crap coming in, but the difference is that the current system while it has a few leaks, does in fact keep a bulk of the crap out. A few people have discovered a way to pass bad flash, but that is what adds to the charm of the portal really. Its the most free of the portals and the least restricted because creating a flash with just stickmen fighting still takes more effort and time than drawing one in MS paint, which is what the art portal would flood with without the scouting system. Also the idea behind the scouting system is to keep bad stuff out of the portal, but still allow the users to put any legit art piece on their user pages. So just because its not in the portal doesnt mean they cant have their images on the site. The B/P system forces people to strive to reach at least some level of skill in order to get a flash passed.
There are also those who argue that alot of the spam flash is actually good, and in a way it is. It is its own avant-garde movement that adds to the wide vareity of the largest and first flash collection on the internet.

Thanks for this! Now off to wait for some scouting....

Scouting achieved!

Well i have to admit..this is pretty in depth. For all the others reading this!! You only have 20 spaces for art if you are unscouted!! Trust me i know...But other than that this is all good advice!

Excellent point, ill have to add that in somewhere when i get around to it.

never noticed u are a mod! :O just sayin wasup

ps nice icon ftw

So now im only worthy of talking to cuz im a mod :(

My friend Bullsik, an illustrator, created an account on ng. He submitted his artwork (very decent one I must say). Yet it didn't appear on the art portal so far. I clicked "recommend this user" to help him. As I understand, he has to be "scouted". Does it mean he has to wait to be "discovered" by a renown ng artist? Will someone of the ng crew do that? Should he request artists via PM to scout him or post such a request on the forum? How else can I help him?

Im sure he has been sent scout invites, ask him to check his inbox for the confirmations. He should not PM anyone asking for a scout, nor should he post anywhere asking for a scout.

Thanks, that really cleared things up. :)

Welcome, and on a side note your 3 newest submissions are a hell of a lot better than your 3 older ones.

Informative, I didn't know you needed to have four marked as public to be eligible for scouting. If you ever have the time would you be wiling to take a look at what I've submitted and let me know what you think I should have marked as public, if any. Just looking for opinions since I'm still fairly new here.

Good stuff, keep working and you should get scouted pretty soon.

I'll just assume that everything I have marked as public is good enough since you didn't say otherwise. I'm not as concerned about getting scouted as I am about having stuff marked as public that isn't good enough if I am scouted. From what I've seen in the art portal it's kind of hard to judge the level of quality that is expected.

Just keep making stuff, if the bulk of your pieces are good enough you have nothing to worry about, we mods can unmark the ones that aren't up to snuff and you can keep your scout.

Great guide!
It answers my questions about the art portal.
Thanks, see you later...

dont you have to see me first to see me later?

This has no relevance to your blog post, but I watched A Scanner Darkly last night on a whim, and I decided that you look like Keanu Reeves when he's cell shaded.

Example:
<a href="http://www.chinadaily.cn/entertainment/2006-06/19/xin_170603191711332133242.jpg">http://www.chinadaily.cn/entertainmen t/2006-06/19/xin_17060319171133213324 2.jpg</a>

:|

God damnit.... *tallys another for keanu reeves*

This guide is so Handy and Dandy!

So is your mother.

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